Sorry to bust your american dream, but a New Yorker is someone born in New York! You don't see native new yorkers heading down to Texas and calling themselves Texans, why should it work the other way around? The problem with this title of "new yorker" is that there are so many out of towners here that are wannabe's, that they all seem to have gotten together and agree on these silly definitions, such as "it's in your heart" and "attitude". Spare me.

These are the same people that shun the 4 outer boroughs (staten island, brooklyn, the bronx and queens) and a vast number of them do not even know that they comprise "new york city". These outer boroughs in fact, hold the largest # of new york city natives than all of Manhattan.

So you can call yourself whatever you want, but if you weren't born here, you're not a new yorker. It's by definition.

Dan
From the Bronx

hell yea im with you man! if u werent born in new york, u shouldnt be callin urself a new yorker! if u were born in florida and then moved to ny...ur still considered a floridian!

from the dictionary:

Floridian:
n : a resident of Florida

New Yorker:
n : a resident of New York

Thank goodness somebody else thinks that. I was born in New York and have since moved South. Everyone is trying to tell me that I am not a New Yorker any more and that I should embrace where I am now. I will always be a New Yorker and nobody can change that.

Okay, I was born in the Bronx, but raised in the Fort Lee, NJ area, and have been living in Manhattan for 6 years, Mom and Dad are from Bronx and Queens, respectively. Now, am I a New Yorker or will my NJ years plague me forever?

So if you were born in Brooklin, NY you are a newyorker or not?))

AMEN! And I'd like to add one thing: A true New Yorker is someone who does not have to constantly go around PROVING they are a "New Yorker".

You know what. You're right. There just happen to be people who move to New York, for business reasons, and become far more successful than you could ever dream of.

Ex: Dan Rather, CBS Evening News

A Texan who prospers in NYC

You keep your self-aggrandizing title. I prefer financial success over 9 letters of the alphabet anyday!

Dan:

Your keep your self-aggrandizing dwaddle about those 9 letters of the alphabet: N-E-W-Y-O-R-K-E-R.

I prefer prosperous "transplants" like Dan Rather (CBS NEWS, ORIGINALLY FROM TEXAS, VERY WEALTHY FELLOW) over you anyday.


Why don't you swim southwest to the Statue of Liberty and kiss her ass.

P.S.: You got that from France, you unlettered neanderthal.



Adieu

Asked a friend from the Bronx why NYC was called "Big Apple" and she referred me to this web page. Fascinating! I love the loyalty and compassion of all of you. I am also from a large east coast city and have similar feelings for my home town.
While visiting my friend one of her uncles who is a retired NYC busdriver referred to the Verranzano Bridge as "the guinea gang plank" I totally cracked up!Was not offended even though I was the only Italian in a house full of Irishmen. Nykrs humor seems to come so easily,I always feel so comfortable there.
Keep loving your city.....Mary

Here's the problem with your argument, Dan:

I was born in Maine. Moved at one year of age to New Mexico, where I lived for a year. Then Orange county, CA for eight years, which I call my growing up years. Then Oklahoma for the last nine years.

So, what am I to call myself? I have not lived in Maine for nearly 19 years, and have never been back. I know nothing first-hand about the state I was born in. I don't remember my time in NM, either. For a long time, I called myself a Californian, because my family is there and I missed it terribly. But having not lived there for so long, I don't feel like a Californian. I am certainly not an Oklahoman. I eschew OK customs and common ways and have no recognizable accent.

My point is: there are no hard and fast rules. Everyone's situation is different. You cannot force someone to call themselves something that they are not or do not feel that they are.

I love NYC and have planned for years to settle there. I will be there in a couple years now and I already know that I love the city; it is the city for me. After living in NYC for a period (I'm talking years and years and years - I'm not one to be presumptuous) I know that I will consider myself a NYer. And no one can tell me different.

I'm from Queens, New York. The crime rate in New York used to be pretty high, but I think New York has finally been removed from the "150 most dangerous American cities" list. What are the other questions you wanted answers to?

Yeahhhhh!!! u got that right ,cuz see I am from New York n I was n am born in NYC I am 100% proud of that. Yo that was a GOOD definition u gave . That's how it gotta b. Im from Broolyn? Dan wrote:
>
> Sorry to bust your american dream, but a New Yorker is
> someone born in New York! You don't see native new yorkers
> heading down to Texas and calling themselves Texans, why
> should it work the other way around? The problem with this
> title of "new yorker" is that there are so many out of
> towners here that are wannabe's, that they all seem to have
> gotten together and agree on these silly definitions, such as
> "it's in your heart" and "attitude". Spare me.
>
> These are the same people that shun the 4 outer boroughs
> (staten island, brooklyn, the bronx and queens) and a vast
> number of them do not even know that they comprise "new york
> city". These outer boroughs in fact, hold the largest # of
> new york city natives than all of Manhattan.
>
> So you can call yourself whatever you want, but if you
> weren't born here, you're not a new yorker. It's by
> definition.
>
> Dan
> From the Bronx

i was born in Brooklyn, NY (bedstuy area) and later moved to Florida but i still consider myself a New Yorker.

my whole family has lived in new york for generations and New York has more of my history than Florida ever will

Reppin brooklyn (the 718) to the fullest

Born and raised in Queens, NY. I agree with those who say that a real NYer are born and reside in the state of NY. I know people who moved to Ny (Manhattan, BK, Queens) and just start to claim as if they have been NYers all their lives. Most of Manhattan is filled with out-of-staters.

I am born and raised New Yorker and i hate people who move to NY and say there new yorkers. I am sorry but your not! If i moved to Texas I would still call myself a New Yorker! Plane and simple. Being a New Yorker is someone who lives in Manhattan, the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn staten island and Long Island

If you took the regents test, grew up in the shadows of the World Trade and pizza from anywhere else taste like cardboard with cheese - you are a New Yorker in my book no matter where you were born!

A big fat high five to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was born & raised in Inwood for 18 years. So was my mother. My father lived in the Bronx until he was 16 then moved to Inwood. My grandmother was born in the Village & moved to the Bronx when she was either in her late teens or early 20's. My grandfather was born & raised in the Bronx. My other grandparents were from Ireland but lived in Harlem & Inwood for MANY MANY years.

I also think that in order to be a NYer you must be BORN & RAISED here. Have gone to school here, whether they are uppity private schools, Catholic parish schools or public schools.


A real NYer can tell you what the neighborhood use to look like, what stores use to be in certain places.

As for the outer boros....here's something I don't get. Growing up in Inwood we NEVER, I mean NEVER called Manhattan "the city". I never heard anyone call it that until I went to high school in the Bronx. I had no idea what these girls were talking about. To this day I shudder when I hear people call it that. Its not a city...the 5 boros make up NYCITY, not Manhattan. Manhattan is a boro, its an island (btw, Queens & Brooklyn are nothing more than an extension of Long Island). All 5 boros pay the same taxes, have the same laws, the same government, the same mayor. So I just don't get what people are referring to when they say "the city". No dorko, its Manhattan, or better yet, give it a neighborhood (Inwood, Hts, Harlem, Morningside Hts, 34th St., Village, ect....).

I agree. To be considered a "native New Yorker" you have to be born in New York. I think that is what native means, to be born a part of.

I both agree and disagree what Dan says about what a real New Yorker is.

A real New Yorker does not have to be born and raised in New York. One who is born in New York is a "native." What if you were born in New York yesterday and two days later you you're family moved to California and never came back til 20 years? Would you still consider yourself a New Yorker? In some way, Yes! because you are a native to that state. But what your are really now is a Californian since it is where you experience came from. THis also goes the other way. If you were born in California two days ago and moved to New York a couple of days later, and grew up and experienced New York life, now that's what you really call yourself a New Yorker. It is all about memories and experience.

My point is if you do not have any memories and experience of New York then you are not real New Yorker. A person who is born in New York but moved just before gaining memeories and experience is not real New Yroker but a native New Yorker. A real New Yoker and a native New Yorker is two diffrent things.

So basically, a real New Yorker must have memories and experience of New York, not just being born and raised in New York.